Atheists don’t believe in hell. I mean of course they don’t, right? They believe that when we die we cease to exist. They believe that when those that love us die even our memory will cease to exist. Obviously there are nuances. Claiming that all atheists believe one particular thing denies their individuality. I don’t want to do that here, but I think I’m in the generally acceptable range of atheist beliefs. Please if you feel I’m misrepresenting you, tell me in the comments. For those of you that agree with my assessment, I’m going to go further out on a limb and call that Atheist Hell. Descending into empty cold nothingness sounds like just as bad a punishment as descending into a lake of fire. On the off chance that everything I am and do will cease to exist, if my life doesn’t make a bit of difference, if the grave is just worms, then I will call that a hell.
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It’s curious how christians are so vain that they need to convince themselves that they’ll keep existing and be remembered.
Sorry, I don’t need to worry about if I’m remembered or not. I live my life the best I can, and don’t need to salve my ego.
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It’s a fair question. And yes I am at least a little vain. But your answer seems nihilistic to me. It leads to a conclusion that nothing matters at all. If my life is not remembered then it loses meaning for me. If humanity is a blip on the cosmic scale that doesn’t change a thing then our struggle to survive seems like an empty one. I won’t put words in your mouth, so tell me why life is worth the work to you?
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Unsurprisingly, a lack of your ignorant god doesn’t lead to nihilism. That’s a common false claim by a christian who needs to try to scare people into his cult in their need for external validation.
Things matter quite a bit, and no god, or heaven or hell needed. I do love to see how christians are so desperate in their need for attention, when they crave it even after they are dead. It’s your problem that your life loses meaning for you if you aren’t remembered after you die.
Yep, humanity is a blip on the cosmic scale. So? We have meaning *now*. Life is “worth the work” since I enjoy the benefits of the work, love, a good glass of wine, a good meal, a lovely sunset, seeing my garden grow and change, etc.
You have a pitiful existence if you can’t enjoy these things in your desperation to get to your imaginary afterlife. An afterlife that you have not one scrap of evidence for at all.
I’m always amused by theists like you who constantly whine about this life. If you find it such a burden, go out and volunteer to clear land mines.
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It is odd first of all that if I don’t matter that we are having this conversation at all. I freely admit that perhaps all I will leave behind is the few scribbles I’ve put on paper and on the internet. But you are engaging in that endeavor. Your criticism is an opportunity to see both of our minds at work. Perhaps that doesn’t matter either, but writing and art are a form of “immortality” even if a conscience one is denied me.
Another oddity is that your initial complaint was in reference to my ego. But I pressed just a tiny bit and you admitted that you were willing to work for the personal benefits you receive from it. In other words to stroke your own ego.
The last of your assertions that I don’t find my life worth living is simply false. I have no intention of stepping on a landmine to get to whatever is or isn’t on the other side of death. As I said I admit that might be nothing. But again as I said that seems like a hell in a literal sense if not a theistic one.
I’m enjoying this conversation and will continue as long as you’d like. But if you are truly worried about stroking my ego, I want to assure you that you are doing that. As they say, “No publicity is bad publicity.” Have whatever kind of day you deserve.
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Everyone matters in some form, and still no evidence for your false claims of nihilism being part of atheism. My showing how your claims are wrong is simply appropriate since lies rarely achieve anything worthwhile. I don’t understand the desperate need to have immortality that so many theists evince. It seems be rather childish, and greedy.
Working for personal benefits isn’t stroking one’s ego. But nice try.
It’s rather silly to see you change your claims. You have claimed this “ If humanity is a blip on the cosmic scale that doesn’t change a thing then our struggle to survive seems like an empty one.” And now you claim that your life is worth living. Why? It is nothing new to have a Christian insist that their life is worth living when I give them a way to end it by doing some good. Curious how you all suddenly find life important.
And nothing isn’t hell. Hell is your cults little fantasies of eternal torture for those who don’t agree with your cult.
I know I’m not stroking your ego, since I can show how your nonsense fail. That aphorism doesn’t always work, when your cult fails and you are shown to be no more than a fraud.
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You have not convinced me that I am a fraud. If that is your intent you are failing. My life might be worth living regardless of whether I am correct about an afterlife, and your attempt to prove that it is not because you assert I am lying is you being childish. I don’t have to agree with you to be sincere. And I have not threatened you with Christian hell. You are making that up entirely. I am a firm believer in the notion of agency: that you make your choices and I make mine and we both have to live with the consequences. You are free to reject any and all gods as imaginary. If you are wrong you will be far less likely to dwell in the presence of a very real God. If I am wrong I won’t ever know.
So if I’m wrong is life still worth living? Maybe, but your assertions still seems nihilistic to me. I don’t want heaven so much that I am rushing to get there. The fact that you don’t want heaven at all doesn’t again prove me wrong.
I am still waiting for you to “show how my nonsense fails.” That is a positive claim and if you wish to prove it the burden of that proof is on you. I don’t feel any need to prove to you that your version of the afterlife (i.e. Nothing) seems like a hell to me. That is merely a subjective observation that you seem to have taken offense over.
You seem rude to me but I believe we both have a God given right to say offensive things. As always, happy to continue if you wish.
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